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Sorry, Carol. I promise I'm not going to ask you any question. I don't care what happens. I'm not going to ask you another question though. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I don't believe that but go ahead. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, I have full faith that all of this is wonderful and I know you do a great job. So I was just thinking aloud a little bit here, under 4 worst case scenario type situation. I know it's so hard to solve the problem I'm about to mention. How do you define active development of the project? I'm sure you thought through all this undoubtedly, you and everybody in your office. I'm just thinking how do you measure that if fundraising wasn't going well or so on and so forth? City Attorney Carol Duncan said, and I can't remember. Which section are you on? Councilmember LJ Bryant said, It's like under 4. Yeah, it's under the reversionary right and termination. Chairman Gris Gibson said, section two, number two. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, page... City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I mean, we were mostly looking at the long-term financing on that. I guess, ask your question again. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, yeah, I mean, I'm just, I remember the city of Wiener had a big fight over a building down there between the senior citizens and somebody else over some kind of situation along these lines. Hopefully, everything goes great and they keep raising money and everything's wonderful, but I was just thinking along the lines of it talks about if they cease active development, we can kind of take everything back away from them and say, Hey, things didn't work out. This is our building. We're taking it back over. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, so I think we mostly were talking about, I think the way I read that is that we're talking about in the event that the long-term financing is not secured. And we did not originally have a timeline on that. Originally, we just said if financing is not secured, then it's going to revert back to us. And we did decide that we probably needed to put a timeline on that. So that's where the January 1, 2030 comes in. And I think that when you then get to the or, we're talking about if the project fails to proceed or ceases operation. So fails to proceed to me means that it kind of reverts back to that first sentence where it's talking about they didn't secure their finances by January 1, 2030. Then it's going to come to us. Or if they build the museum, but for some reason they can no longer finance the continuing of operation of the museum and it ceases operation, it would return to us. So if there are other concerns about defining that, I'm sure we can amend that to add some additional language if you have any that you suggest. But we were thinking mostly of that covering the ability to raise the funds for the project. And then if at some point after the project is built and operating, for some reason they can't maintain operation because of a funding issue, that it was clear that it reverted to us. And we were more focused, honestly, on being clear that not only the land reverts to us, but anything that's been improved on the land reverts to us. Because while you went into, what does that mean? We went into thinking of the Citizens Bank Building where one person owns the building and one person owns the property. And we wanted to make sure it was clear that it all reverts to the city if, without any encumbrances, if it ceases to operate. But if you have some suggestions, I'm sure we're open to clarifying that more. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, yeah, three years makes a lot of sense. Essentially three years. And that makes a lot of sense. That's a nice runway for them to work on. And it's not like if everything fell apart for some reason. It's not like we have grand plans for the next three years. So I think that's an appropriate amount of time for both parties to work on it. So that makes sense. Thank you. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, we were mostly thinking of failing to proceed in the means of financing and building the building. More so than... I'll give it some thought. If we can come up with some better clarification language, we'll suggest an amendment before it gets through Council. \r\n\r\nCouncilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, well, here I am adding to it. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, Okay, here we go. Maybe I should make notes. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, so literally in the same contract, I'm looking under the terms and conditions, and that was in 4. But 3B, city through its designated administrative representative or City Council reviews and provides written approval confirming that the financing confirmation threshold has been fully met. Kind of share with me what... City Attorney Carol Duncan said, are you in the agreement or are you... Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, no, I'm on the actual land agreement. Yes, I'm on the agreement, the land use agreement, the contract. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, the second. Number two, can you pull that up? Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, under demolition and structural alteration restriction 3B. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, so what's your question about that again? Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, I just want an explanation on what that means, because obviously it says City Council and then it says administrative representative, and who would that be? And what is confirming the financing confirmation? City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I don't remember it somewhere in there… I think what we're meaning is before you start tearing down our building over there, we need to confirm that you have raised enough money to build your building. That's the way I read that. So before they can start any type of demolition on the building that exists there or substantially altering the building that is currently on the property, we have to be able to verify either, and I don't know that we've designated a representative, an administrative representative, but either City Council or an administrative representative needs to determine that enough money has been raised to actually build something back. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, so that's what that means by, because that's mainly what I was asking, financing confirmation threshold. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, we want to make sure that they've raised enough money to build a building there before they tear down our building. They can't raise enough money to do the demolition and prep the lot and not have the money raised to build something back. They're not allowed to tear down that building before they've raised enough money to build their building. Does that make sense? Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, it does. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, and that's what that means. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, okay, so going through the process, and I'm just talking out loud. Just help me process this. So basically when I go through that process of building this building, of course we've got to go through the codes and blah, blah, blah, and get it approved. Then that's when basically administration will say, hey, the building, what it's worth, what you've raised, all of that. Is that work for that? City Attorney Carol Duncan said, yeah, I would assume they're going to submit plans for what they want to build. And then we're going to confirm that they have the financing to build what they think they have the financing to build. And then we would agree that they can move forward with dismantling or demolishing or renovating. I don't know which choice they're going to make, but probably dismantling or demolishing the building that's on the property. And Heather's here if you want to ask her specific questions about their plans. \r\n\r\nCouncilmember LJ Bryant said, chairman, along the lines of what Dr. Coleman was saying on 3B there, I'm almost wondering if that, and the city attorney can help me out here, I'm almost wondering if the “or” shouldn't be an “and”. Chairman Chris Gibson said, my perspective would be it would need to come to the Council as a whole. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, but if without the “and”, if it's an “or”... City Attorney Carol Duncan said, it could be either way. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, so it needs to be an “and”. Councilmember Joe Hafner said, but I don't know if we need to necessarily be the one saying, yeah, you've raised enough money. I mean, I think... Councilmember LJ Bryant said, but if we don't have an “and”, does the City Council... Councilmember Joe Hafner said, it's our job to, like, do resolutions and pass ordinances. It's not our job to audit financials of a nonprofit or another company. I mean, we're not a loan approval committee. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, I just hate to see this… I would just hate for Council to not have another round of involvement in what could potentially be a big decision. And I feel like if we don't change “or” to “and” we’re kind of... City Attorney Carol Duncan said, well, we're not... I mean, again, the decision of the city designated representative and the City Council is not telling them what they can build on that lot. Like, that's up to them to determine what they can do. The only oversight that you have under B is to make sure once the plans are developed that they really have the money to build it before they tear our existing building down. It's more about tearing down our building than it is about what they want to build. Whether they want to build a one-story, two-story, five-story, I don't know. Like, it depends on how much money they raise, right? What they want to build there is not our decision. I feel like this administrative oversight is just to make sure that they can really build what they say they want to build financially before they tear down our existing building. It's not really about approving what they build. I mean, obviously, the Planning Department's going to approve... I mean, separate from code, right? Obviously, through code, we're going to approve what they build. But, I mean, determining whether it's two stories, three stories, one-story, that's not really the oversight that we're talking about here. It's just making sure they've got the financing in place before they tear down our building. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I understand that clause to mean. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, I move to change “or” to “and”. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I mean... 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So, we are really excited about a lot of the changes that we brought on board. As you all are aware, we have some new payment systems. We have some software. We're trying to get all of that integrated in with the routing software and the programming in the bus. So, as we continue to work through all of that, we're seeing some dramatic improvement. We did... I'm just going off the top of my head, but last week alone, we had about 200 trips per day. And out of all of the trips that we did, about 15% of those are actually utilizing that UMO payment system. So, that's a... Considering this is the first, second week of usage, we're pretty happy with that. We'll continue to grow that. We are going to do some more public outreach to try to bring awareness to what we're doing. \r\n\r\nWe also did begin our Red Wolves Express for the football season. We have fully integrated that into our regular routing software and bus system to where we are using the bus stops as a traditional bus route would and getting that also up on our app to showcase the times and arrivals and location of the buses for ease of the passengers that are going to utilize that shuttle over to campus. We also did add a full campus service for students. We did have a number of students that participated in that, and we see that growing dramatically as we continue. Along those lines, we've done a lot of outreach programs, especially with Arkansas State University, working with a bunch of the new student orientations and other things that we've been working on to try to bring awareness of that program. We're going to continue to do that. \r\n\r\nWe've also... We're really starting to grow our social media with Facebook. We are now starting to see that become the usage that we really thought that it would be, not only giving awareness to programs and things that are going on, but also notifications of adjustments and service changes and then also getting feedback from that. We did go through a public comment period not long ago, which I think we've discussed a little bit about, with our fare adjustments, adding some additional stops and changing some routes up. And that public comment was... We got a lot of good feedback on that. One of the things that came about from that was changing up some of the routing, specifically for the campus shuttles to accommodate the students and, again, bring more access to the city. \r\n\r\nAs we continue to move forward, we just invite everyone to reach out to us, whether it's on Facebook, whether it's email, whether it's giving us a call. Try to get some information so we can answer any questions you may have. We do have a lot of moving pieces. We're really proud we've been able to continue to pull those all together. And I know one of the biggest hurdles has been the concept of UMO and fare capping and the changing of that structure on the way we used to do things. So we've been having those conversations. We're continuing to have those conversations. So just reach out to us. Let us know if there's any questions. And if there's anything I didn't touch on, I'll be happy to talk about it if you have any questions for me. \r\n\r\nCouncilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, well, not a question, but I'd just like to see some numbers next time for kind of where we are, increase or decrease in those routes. That's all. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, chairman, I would just agree with Dr. Coleman. I was just think if we could have a written report, that'd be great. Director Lee Wells said, sure. 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Really, really quick, I'm going to give you all great numbers. You want some numbers? I've got numbers. This year at the pool total visitors was 16,263 at the pools this summer. Had a great summer. Youth sports, fall registrations right now. We have 51 registered for cheer. Flag football has 336 participants. We have 28 coed teams that will be playing this fall. We outfitted 100 5th and 6th graders for tackle football for the JHS tackle football program. Miracle League has almost 90 participants signed up to start Miracle League baseball in two weeks. Soccer has 1,449 participants, 129 teams. Softball has 25 adult teams, 300 participants, 31 youth teams, 405 participants. Volleyball, as of today, has 323 registration and is still open for volleyball. It starts in October. So that's our fall youth sports. Almost all of those start next Saturday on the 19th out at Joe Mack Campbell. Cheer, soccer, flag football, all going on next weekend. Softball league is going on now currently. They're probably playing right now. \r\n\r\nThis past weekend, we have Jonesboro Baseball Boosters and Parks and Rec met with a new baseball tournament organization called Grand Slam Sports based out of Marion. And we’ve partnered with them. They had their first tournament at Joe Mack last weekend. They had a two-day tournament at 50 teams, estimated 750 participants, about 4,000 people over the weekend at Joe Mack Campbell Park for baseball this past weekend. We also had an organization that held softball, remembering 9/1/1. This past weekend, Saturday and Sunday, we had 53 teams, estimated about 4,000 participants and spectators at that event last weekend at Southside. \r\n\r\nShooting Sports is on a record year this year. We've changed some administration out there. The pistol rifle side has seen 3,840 people as of August 30th. Trap and skeet has shot 8,000-plus rounds of skeet. And we've sold 223 year or lifetime memberships this past year up to August 30th. \r\n\r\nAnd then we've had a JPD has done a little survey for us with the traffic camera that's out at Craighead Forest Park. And we estimate at this time that we've had 194,810 cars that have been in Craighead Forest up to August 30th of this year. So, we're really excited about where Parks is right now going. And so that's really just a quick, short numbers update of where we are right now. \r\n\r\nWe want to clear up a couple of things. The social media post that went out talked about a parking pass at Joe Mack Campbell. That was a season pass for youth sports for the fall. It wasn't a parking pass. That was a misnomer and we hope you'll cleared that up. If there’s any questions, but we apologize for that error. But that was for a season pass. And then for those of you who aren't aware, who don't have any social media posts. We've changed the traffic pattern on Saturdays at Joe Mack Campbell Park. It will be very similar to the lights in the park at Christmas. Participant, spectators will come in through Harry Drive, and they will exit on Dan Avenue. \r\n\r\nI emailed you guys a price proposal, and I don't think we have time to discuss that here. But certainly I would entertain any questions that you may have about it. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, chairman? I know we're out of time, so I don't even want to take any time now, but you're right, we're behind the times. We haven’t updated since 2017. You're 100% right. The only couple that worried me, because, you know, a 30% increase from $5 to $7 or whatever is no big deal, right? But like, the Earl Bell, like $700 to $1,000. A couple of those worried me just a little bit, because it's no big deal to us. It's $300 at the city, but maybe that's a big deal to somebody else. So some of those, I wish we'd look at maybe being a little bit more incremental, $800 next year, $900 the next year. Director Jim Stearns said, what we tried to do with Earl Bell was bring them to very similar to what the other community centers were for renting. And actually, Earl Bell has more features than the other community centers. I mean, if you rent Earl Bell for the day you'd have access to the rock wall, four different community rooms, there's a boxing area. Earl Bell actually has more amenities than the other community centers, so that’s we kind of brought that up to the same cost. That was a concern. Our board brought the same questions up to us when we presented it to them. \r\n\r\nCouncilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, yes, sir. I don't know if it's necessarily a question, and what made it so amenable for me is when I looked at the agenda today that you were presenting. And I know you're not aware of this, but it's a very huge concern of mine. I'm prefacing because my children and grandchildren are participants in a lot of these sports. And on this past Saturday, I am very concerned because my daughter was jumped on Saturday. You didn't know it, but it was a baseball feud or whatever that happened. I'm sure you probably heard of it by now. Director Jim Stearns said, yes, sir. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, so I'd just like to know, and not today, but you can email me and let me know, because she was jumped. And I don't know what we're doing about it. Hey, I'm a parent. I get rowdy too. Hey, I want them to win, score, run, strike, whatever. But we have to come up with some kind of way to keep the quorum in these games. Director Jim Stearns said, so the baseball organization, I reached out to the director, his name is Logan. And he spoke to us, and they have banned both of those teams from participating in any future events. They've addressed it. He said this has been a history with these two teams. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, okay, you're talking about my grandson team. Director Jim Stearns said, I don’t know which teams, but anyway, I can forward that email to you and let you know that they've addressed it. It was very detailed, much more than we would really. They've really addressed that. They're going to continue to investigate, and they're going to either ban those teams or those parents from participating in future events. So, you know, the other option for us would be, fortunately, we had a ranger that was on site while that was happening that kind of helped the 9-1-1 process get started a little bit better. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, now, I don't know if I'm necessarily for banning both teams because we're talking about the kids because the kids weren't fighting. It wasn't the kids. It was the adults. And so, anyway, just let me know what's happening. Director Jim Stearns said, yes sir, I’ll forward that email from Logan. ** someone from the audience said, can I butt into that for a second? I'm sorry. Chairman Chris Gibson said, just one minute, please. Any other questions for Jim? Thank you, Jim. 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Please come to the podium and state your name and address. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, you have to restate it when you're at the microphone. Maria Diaz, 2401 Twin Oaks, approached the podium and said, oh, I'm sorry. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, that's okay. Maria Idias said, you’ve got a point. It wasn't the kids. It was another team. But it all boils down to the parents. My son was hit by a car two weeks ago. The mother and kids come out of the store laughing. I turned around and told that mother, you need to teach your kids the manners. It comes to the parents. Fine the parents, not the kid. 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Chairman Chris Gibson said, yes sir. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, with this camping and it's folks specifically to tents and blah blah blah. Is there an ordinance about RVs if they park outside and camp? I mean maybe I'm asking the wrong question… Chairman Chris Gibson said, I’ll have to defer to the city attorney on that question. I don't believe there is. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, we don't have a different ordinance on RVs in the city parks, but I believe that it would be covered under shelter in that definition. Because it says erecting of a tent or shelter of natural or synthetic material or preparing a sleeping bag. So I believe, what we were hoping that this would do is because it includes parking lots and parks would eliminate unpermitted camping in those areas. When we talk about special events like Barbecue Fest there are obviously some RVs that come in for the people that are cooking. And they would be given a special permission to be there in the designated areas that we have for it. But I believe it would cover RVs. We may want to look at some specific language for RVs. This is kind of a jumping off point to get started on making sure we have a restriction on where you can camp in the parks because we're expanding our parks. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, if someone does stay outside of Craighead’s camping area with an RV, just speaking, so we would use this. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I believe we would use this. And if we need to get more specific with the definition we can certainly do that. This is just our jumping off point to try to keep people in the designated camping areas. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, yeah so if we have to change the, how does that work if we have to change the language? City Attorney Carol Duncan said, we just amend it. Councilmember Dr. Anthony Coleman said, alright. Thank you. \r\n\r\nCouncilmember LJ Bryant said, question for the city attorney. How does this apply to folks, I mean I’ve read the definitions here, but folks camping at Union Park on Union on our city property. Just sleeping on our picnic tables and stuff. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, they can't set up a camp there. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, but you could sleep… City Attorney Carol Duncan said, well they can't have, I mean you or I could sit at a picnic table and fall asleep. As long as we're not setting up a sleeping bag and setting up an actual camp. I think that's where you’re crossing the line. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, and I know this is only slightly adjacent but it's like on the same line of thinking. I know Tim Griffin used some police officers in his office to I guess cite people, arrest people for loitering, whatever the right terminology is. How does loitering apply to anything that we're talking about here? Like particularly saying the Union Park situation here. When are you loitering and when are you? City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I think that that would be, I think that the whole point of parks is for people to loiter in them. Like I think it would be hard to say…  Councilmember LJ Bryant said, well on the, say the sidewalk there, like in the Tim Griffin… City Attorney Carol Duncan said, well this doesn't cover, this ordinance specifically is us talking about parks and parking lots. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, so let’s use the parking lot. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, we had debated an ordinance, you know bringing forth an ordinance about sidewalks but we haven't done that yet. So this is strictly parks and parking lots. Councilmember LJ Bryant said, so what does it mean to loiter in a city parking lot I guess? Under like the guise of what Tim Griffin's thinking about. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, I mean we already have some designated no loitering signs in our parking lots. And part of that stemmed from situations that occurred when our local restaurants and bars were closing at 2 a.m. And we had fights and things like that where people just hung out in city parking lots and stayed there. And we did put up some no loitering signs in our city parking lots already to try to prevent criminal activity in those parking lots. So we already have some signage on some of the downtown parking lots about loitering for that reason. \r\n\r\nChairman Chris Gibson said, Jim you want to come up? Parks Director Jim Stearns approached the podium and said, Ms. Porter brought a great question up in between the meetings. This would not affect Boy Scouts camping at a non-campsite area at Craighead Forest. The process for them, they would fill out a special event permit for their event and we would be designated them in the campsite area. So, just want to make sure to just publicly let her know that this wouldn't affect if the Boy Scouts chose to have a special event at Craighead Forest and camp at a site outside of a campsite. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, as long as they do it with permission. Director Jim Stearns said, as long as they get those special event permits, that is correct. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, and that's what we were talking about. And there could be other things, disc golf let's say, if they want to set up tents. Director Jim Stearns said, none of those special events. City Attorney Carol Duncan said, you know anything like that where they have a special event that they want to camp. 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